“Animals matter a lot on non-hedonic views” by MichaelStJules

Summary I outline an argument for nonhuman animals mattering a lot in expectation on desire and preference-based views (more). I argue against normalizing by desires/preferences about one's own suffering (more). I also discuss other views, including rights-based theories, contractualism, virtue ethics and special obligations in another post here. This post combines two comments I made for Animal Welfare vs Global Health Debate Week, tying together some ideas from other posts in this sequence and adding a bit more. The case for animals on desire and preference views I think there's a decent case for nonhuman animals mattering substantially in expectation on non-hedonic views, including desire and preference views: I think it's not too unlikely that nonhuman animals have access to whatever general non-hedonic values you care about, e.g. chickens probably have (conscious) desires and preferences, and there's a decent chance shrimp and insects do, too (more [...] ---Outline:(00:05) Summary(00:43) The case for animals on desire and preference views(02:27) Against normalizing by sufferingThe original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 16th, 2024 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/8xxFxaLu9aQoYXGAj/animals-matter-a-lot-on-non-hedonic-views --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.