Staring into the Abyss on UFOs and Consciousness: My Discussion with the hosts of STRANGE RECON Part 1

In this episode I and Desta Barnabe join Jeff Kingbury and Chase Williams who host the podcast Strange Recon. We go to the edge of consciousness and UFO theories and peer down into the abyss. This is part 1 of 2. Put on your seatbelts. This conversation does not bob and weave. We get right to it. Jeff is a military vet and former film industry guy. Chase is employed as an AI expert. Their Facebook site  https://www.facebook.com/groups/826290981251163 Strange Recon the Youtube Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCo2va19FfU Other Links https://linktr.ee/whitehouseufo